Message From Dave

Hi Readers of Tex's Amway Global Blog.

There's some controversy regarding myself and Tex at another blog.

Read about it at On The Road With Dave-- The headline is Tex And Dave: Not The Same.

We now continue with Tex's Blog.

Out With The Old

Times Square.

It's the place to be at the end of the year. Crowds of people, music, and partying. Everyone waiting for those last seconds of the year to end and a bright New Year to begin.

In Texas; and at Tex's Amway Global Blog the year is winding down as well, and 2010 is just hours away. As administrator here at the blog, I know that even though the old year is over; you can bet Tex's mission to expose the tool scam among Amway motivational organizations will continue into 2010.

I also bet that Tex's mission and his focus will continue to evolve on into 2010. I'm also imagining that this blog will evolve, with some changes as well.

Stick around--whether you love Tex or hate him, you can bet there will always be something to read here at Tex's Amway Global Blog.



















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Tex's Blog Has A "New" Contributor

As most readers of Tex's Amway Global Blog already know, the blog was started and written by yours truly, Dave Robison. I take comments made by "Tex" at this blog and other blogs related to Amway Global and Quixtar and add them as individual blog entries here.

"Tex" then responds in the comments section and adds his points. In the beginning, I called it, "surrogate blogging".

Today, "Tex" has posted his very first official blog entry. He is now a full-fledged contributor to his own blog. While I will still be the blog administrator and will still make blog entries(and edit them); Tex now has the power to write an entry under his own moniker and publish it to his blog.

Congratulations, Tex!

Price Reductions!!! (And a couple of Increases)

Here's the price reductions that came out a couple of weeks ago. On average, the price and % changes for the price reductions were  -$3.65 -16.07%:

Brand SKU Description Current           IBO Cost New IBO Cost IBO CHANGE IBO % CHANGE

Artistry 100196R3 POLISHING SCRUB $17.65 $14.95 -$2.70 -15.30%

Artistry 100240R4 SKIN REFINISH LTN $33.55 $31.53 -$2.02 -6.02%

Artistry 714885R1 MICROEXFOLIATION CLOTH $7.50 $5.85 -$1.65 -22.00%

Artistry 104210 MICRODERMABRASION SYSTEM $51.20 $46.48 -$4.72 -9.22%

Artistry Essentials 104126 ART ESS HYDRTING CLNSR $10.00 $9.10 -$0.90 -9.00%

Artistry Essentials 104127 ART ESS HYDRTNG TONER $9.65 $8.78 -$0.87 -9.02%

Artistry Essentials 104128 ART ESS HYDRTNG LOTION $13.95 $12.68 -$1.27 -9.10%

Artistry Essentials 104129 ART ESS BAL CLEANSER $10.00 $9.10 -$0.90 -9.00%

Artistry Essentials 104130 ART ESS BAL TONER $9.65 $8.78 -$0.87 -9.02%

Artistry Essentials 104131R1 ART ESS BAL LOTION $13.95 $12.68 -$1.27 -9.10%

Artistry Essentials 105487 ART ESS BALANCING KIT $33.60 $30.56 -$3.04 -9.05%

Artistry Essentials 105489 ART ESS HYDRATING KIT $33.60 $30.56 -$3.04 -9.05%

Artistry Essentials 105717 HYD SKIN CARE SYS MINI $12.50 $11.38 -$1.12 -8.96%

Artistry Essentials 105718 BAL SKIN CARE SYS MINI $12.50 $11.38 -$1.12 -8.96%

Nutrilite A8600R7 GLUCOSE HEALTH 120'S $35.85 $33.05 -$2.80 -7.81%

Nutrilite 100193R2 CARB 2 SUPPLEMENT 90CT $29.80 $27.30 -$2.50 -8.39%

Nutrilite 101593R3 RHODIOLA 110 60CT $31.85 $26.13 -$5.72 -17.96%

Nutrilite 107846 RHODIOLA BLISTER PACK $16.65 $12.99 -$3.66 -21.98%

Nutrilite 102736R2 Invisifiber $27.80 $21.94 -$5.86 -21.08%

Nutrilite 105348R1 SLIMMETRY (WGT MGT SUPPL) $30.00 $25.94 -$4.06 -13.53%

Nutrilite 107847 CARB 2 BLISTER PACK $11.64 $9.09 -$2.55 -21.91%

Nutrilite 100280R3 CLA 500 $63.35 $51.97 -$11.38 -17.96%

Nutrilite 104664R1 GLUCOSAMINE 120CT $23.07 $19.49 -$3.58 -15.52%

Nutrilite 106964 GLUCOSAMINE 240'S $41.53 $35.09 -$6.44 -15.51%

Nutrilite 107125 GLUCOSAMINE 28CT $8.45 $7.14 -$1.31 -15.50%

Nutrilite 105386 GLUCOSAMINE CUST SUPPL $7.65 $5.19 -$2.46 -32.16%

Nutrilite A0244R5 DOUBLE X REFILL $51.65 $44.84 -$6.81 -13.18%

Nutrilite A4300R13 DOUBLE X 3 CELL W/TRAY $53.90 $46.47 -$7.43 -13.78%

Nutrilite A4318R12 DOUBLE X 10-DAY $21.35 $18.19 -$3.16 -14.80%

Nutrilite 103529R1 DOUBLE X GOLD CUST SUPP $8.90 $7.71 -$1.19 -13.37%

Nutrilite 103530R1 DOUBLE X SILVER CUST SUPP $8.90 $7.71 -$1.19 -13.37%

Nutrilite 103531R1 DOUBLE XBRONZE CUST SUPP $8.90 $7.71 -$1.19 -13.37%

Nutrilite 103563 DOUBLE X CUST SUPP $53.40 $46.26 -$7.14 -13.37%

Nutrilite 100648R4 CONCENTRATED FRUITS/VEG $32.50 $26.64 -$5.86 -18.03%

Nutrilite 103556R1 CONCENTRATED FRUITS/VEG $17.30 $14.18 -$3.12 -18.03%

Nutrilite A8914R8 OE BALANCED HEALTH $21.55 $16.57 -$4.98 -23.11%

Nutrilite 103553 OE BA HEALTH CUST SUPP $7.65 $5.88 -$1.77 -23.14%

Nutrilite 101165R4 PERFECT HEALTH PACK $107.95 $89.68 -$18.27 -16.92%

Nutrilite 100332 PERFECT HEALTH BUNDLE $105.70 $88.05 -$17.65 -16.70%

Nutrilite A4230R9 DAILY 180 COUNT $19.35 $14.62 -$4.73 -24.44%

Nutrilite 104174R1 DAILY 90 COUNT $9.80 $7.35 -$2.45 -25.00%

Nutrilite AA0088R5 DAILY FREE MVN/MIN $19.35 $14.62 -$4.73 -24.44%

Nutrilite 103534 DAILY CUST SUPP $3.45 $2.59 -$0.86 -24.93%

Nutrilite 103808 DAILY FREE CUST SUPP $3.45 $2.59 -$0.86 -24.93%

Nutrilite 105480 MENS PACK $17.85 $14.94 -$2.91 -16.30%

Nutrilite 105481 WOMENS PACK $17.85 $14.29 -$3.56 -19.94%

Nutrilite 103786 MANDARIN FITNESS WATER $8.35 $6.50 -$1.85 -22.16%

Nutrilite 103787 PEACH FITNESS WATER ROC $8.35 $6.50 -$1.85 -22.16%

Nutrilite 106410 NUT. CHOC PRTN PWDR PCH $22.40 $17.47 -$4.93 -22.01%

Nutrilite 106411 NUT. VAN PRTN PWDR PCH $22.40 $17.47 -$4.93 -22.01%

Nutrilite 106528 NUT. PRE-WRKOUT ENERGY BR $16.65 $12.99 -$3.66 -21.98%

Nutrilite 106529 NUT. VANENERGY BR $16.65 $12.99 -$3.66 -21.98%

Nutrilite 106530 NUT. PEANTBUTR ENERGY BR $16.65 $12.99 -$3.66 -21.98%

Nutrilite 103629 HONEY BBQCRUNCHY SNACK $20.88 $15.60 -$5.28 -25.29%

Nutrilite 107117R1 OAT/CRAN COOKIE $14.52 $11.28 -$3.24 -22.31%

Nutrilite 107118R1 LEMON SPORT COOKIE $14.52 $11.28 -$3.24 -22.31%

Nutrilite 105482 RAS GLUC BEV STIC $7.85 $7.14 -$0.71 -9.04%

Nutrilite 105483 STRW KIWI BEV STIC $7.85 $7.14 -$0.71 -9.04%

Nutrilite 105484 BLU ANTOX BEV STIC $7.85 $7.14 -$0.71 -9.04%

Nutrilite 105485 TROP SPRTBEV STIC $7.85 $7.14 -$0.71 -9.04%

Nutrilite 106531R1 NUT. CHOC PRTN SHAKE $29.88 $26.88 -$3.00 -10.04%

Nutrilite 106532R1 NUT. VAN PRTN SHAKE $29.88 $26.88 -$3.00 -10.04%

Nutrilite 106533R1 NUT. STRW CRM PRTN SHAKE $29.88 $26.88 -$3.00 -10.04%

Nutrilite 106534R1 NUT. FRUIT PUNCH SPT DRNK $27.36 $22.56 -$4.80 -17.54%

Nutrilite 106535R1 NUT. LEMON LIME SPT DRNK $27.36 $22.56 -$4.80 -17.54%

Nutrilite 106536R1 NUT. SF ORANGE SPT DRNK $27.36 $22.56 -$4.80 -17.54%

Nutrilite 106537R1 NUT.SF DRGNFRT SPT DRNK $27.36 $22.56 -$4.80 -17.54%

Nutrilite 106538R1 NUT. GRAPE SPT DRNK $27.36 $22.56 -$4.80 -17.54%

Nutrilite 102000R1 MR SHAKE FRENCH VANILLA $25.56 $22.56 -$3.00 -11.74%

Nutrilite 104654R1 MILK CHOC MEAL REP DRINK $25.56 $22.56 -$3.00 -11.74%

NEW

Nutrilite 107391 Slimmetry Blister Pack New N/A $6.48 N/A N/A

Nutrilite 101997R4 TRIM ADVBODY SYSTEM NEW N/A $149.49 N/A N/A

Nutrilite 101997SA3 TRIM ADV. BODY SYSTEM Spanish NEW N/A $149.49 N/A N/A

Nutrilite 104265 Roasted Garlic CrunchSnacks N/A $15.60 N/A N/A

Nutrilite 107385 Chocolate Crisp Meal Replacement Bar N/A $15.59 N/A N/A

Nutrilite 107386 Cherry Almond Meal Replacement Bar N/A $15.59 N/A N/A

Nutrilite 107387 Lemon Twist Meal Replacement Bar N/A $15.59 N/A N/A

Nutrilite 107388 Blueberry Crunch Meal Replacement Bar N/A $15.59 N/A N/A

Nutrilite 107380 Fudgy Brownie Snack Bar N/A $9.29 N/A N/A

Nutrilite 107381 Cranberry Crunch Snack Bar N/A $9.29 N/A N/A

Nutrilite 107382 Caramel N/A $9.29 N/A N/A

Nutrilite 107383 Chocolate N/A $9.29 N/A N/A

INCREASES

Nutrilite 105479 CITRUS RTD $21.36 $22.50 $1.14 5.34%

Nutrilite 105521 BERRY RTD $21.36 $22.50 $1.14 5.34%

UPDATE 2/8/18
ALL PRICING IS NO LONGER VALID AT ANY AMWAY WEBSITE OR PRINTED MATERIAL. SOME PRODUCTS ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE AS OF THIS UPDATE. 

Tex's Blog Finishes Up The Old Year

Tonight, many Amway Global affiliated Independent Business Owners will most likely be working on their goals for a new year.

I've tried to get Tex's Message out there this year and I hope you've enjoyed "his" blog. Read The Archives. Catch up with Tex and join him in the coming new year. Make it a goal.

And to Tex...thanks for letting me be your "blog-daddy".

HAPPY NEW YEAR FROM TEX'S BLOG

Christmas In Tex Country

I started this blog back in January of 2008 for Tex to get his message out to the public; and I think it's done a pretty good job.

But, I'm gonna take some liberty here and assume that Tex would want to thank all the visitors to "his" blog for stopping by from time to time and reading his comments this year and to wish all the readers at Tex's Amway Global Blog a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.





MERRY CHRISTMAS FROM TEX'S COUNTRY!

Tex's Blog Salutes All Veterans

"THANK YOU" IS NOT ENOUGH

Tex's Quixtar Blog Name Transition

At Tex's request and in keeping with the new transition of Quixtar North America becoming part of Amway Global in 2009; we are changing our name to keep up with the times.

Tex's Quixtar Blog will now be Tex's Quixtar/Amway Global Blog. The website address will remain the same.

Now You Know.

TEX Answers The Prague Questions

As most of you know, Tex was invited to Prague by Alticor to speak to, along with 4 other bloggers and blog commenters, a conference of PR and External Affairs Staff on the phenomena of blogging and its impact on the direct sales industry, specifically Alticor, Amway, and Quixtar.

The blog panel was asked a series of questions by a panel moderator and then allowed to follow up.

Tex was articulate and to the point.

Over at "On The Road With Dave", I reprinted the questions asked of the panel and Tex gave his answers.

I'm reprinting them here.


Let me say, that at no time during the conference were we told NOT to blog about the conference. It was pretty much expected that we would.

The conference session opened with Dino giving a short Powerpoint presentation on what Blogging is, What blogs can do, and how Quixtar, Amway, and Alticor are using blogs. The ease of setting up a blog was mention and different Blog platforms like WordPress and Blogger were mentioned.

The Alticor Media Blog and the Amway Media Blog were began to address questions from, who else, but the Media. At the time, Dick DeVos, son of Amway Founder Rich DeVos was running for Governor of Michigan and his connection with Amway was an issue during the campaign.

After the campaign(and DeVos' loss) the two media blogs began to address Alticor lawsuits and troubles with terminated Independent Business Owners affiliated with Alticor.

Dino then introduced the invited bloggers and briefly explained their blogging efforts.

Again, the panel consisted of Dave Robison; "IBOFightback" (David Steadson); Bridgett, "Tex", "Big Apple". and Quixtar's own, Robin Luymes.

Although, the conference organizers knew all the attendees' real names, each blogger was introduced as their Internet personae. Their anonymity was important to the organizers.

1. When did you first start blogging about Amway, and why?

This is when the "No Tool Scam" sign came out, and I described how the business has been hijacked by the "kingpins" as a tool profit business, and A/Q as a secondary business. I mentioned Rich DeVos and the Directly Speaking recordings, and encouraged the attendees to listen/read them. I started blogging about 3 years ago to put an end to this bait-and-switch scam.

(Blogger's Note: Tex also told the audience that the corporation had lost millions of dollars because they had not addressed the issue of IBOs losing even more millions of dollars through the "tool scam".)


2. Many blogs have their own ground rules, and certainly the blogosphere has many rules of the road. What rules—if any—do you govern yourself by when you blog, and for what reasons?

I treat others as they treat me. When I started blogging, I soon found others were very nasty and had no interest in my ideas. After trying to stay "above the fray" for some time, it became apparent the only way to get my message out was to push back. I don't insult anyone, but I do return insults, and I continue to do so until they apologize for the original insult. (However, since returning, I've agreed with Chuck Lia to be "nicer", as he has indicated he will police his blog fairly with all bloggers.)

3. In your opinion, what do you think of our company’s approach to blogging?

I think I generally agreed with their approach.

(Blogger's Note: Tex? Didn't you also disagree with some panelists,(not me) in that you respected the "strong" approach of the Alticor and Amway Media Blogs?)

4. How has blogging helped you as an individual, as an advocate for the company, and as an "online citizen"? (In my notes, this question was "Has Blogging made you a better person?)

I responded blogging hasn't made me a better person, it has revealed who I am, which is someone who wants to be treated with honesty in a business dealing, which has clearly NOT happened with the tool scam.



5. Do you participate in other online venues, such as with sites like MySpace or Facebook, or do any podcasting? Do you feel that our involvement in these venues makes sense given the nature of our business? Please explain your answer.

I responded I do not participate much in these other venues, although upon reflection I have done some podcasts.




6. Our bloggging presence – the way we blog, how we blog and what we say – is evolving over time. We are still in the learning stages. Many of the audience members here are professional communicators from our Amway affiliates all over the world. What advice can you give our audience members as they continue to embrace blogging as a tool of communication?

I don't recall responding to this question.


7. Do You Make Any Money Blogging?

No, but I believe I have caused a lot of tool scam money to NOT be made that otherwise would have been.


8. Many of the people in this audience primarily deal with reporters and are just now beginning to deal with bloggers. There has been much debate in recent years whether bloggers carry the same rights and privileges, as do traditional journalists. Do you feel bloggers and journalists are one in the same, and should we treat bloggers with the same level of professional courtesy as we do with reporters?


I replied I don't know, I would need to know how they treat reporters.


9. As a global company, we must cooperate with different governments and respect their laws and customs as a rule of doing business. That said, how has blogging impacted the global marketplace?


Many companies have realized they need to pay attention to blogs, as this is a real impact on their reputation.


10. Do you think that blogging has changed the direct selling industry as a whole? Why or why not?

Yes, but I don't recall any further details.

FINALLY, Dino said that over the past year or so; Alticor was trying to transform itself and its companies and its online reputation. In a one-word, "Yes or No" answer; Do you believe the company is already being transformed?


I responded yes, but only because he asked for a single word, I didn't add this question is a bit like asking someone if they have stopped beating their wife. We have started the transformation, but have a long way to go.

Tex On Prague

Last week Tex was invited along with 4 other bloggers and blog commenters to Prague, Czech Republic to speak on a panel for Amway Global Communications.

At the new blog, Speaking of Amway, authored by Chuck Lia; Tex gave his "Take" on the conference and the participants.

TEX SAYS:

March 22nd, 2008 at 1:14 pm

Chuck,

As you know, the reason I am active on the blogs is to ensure the end of the tool scam, which creates much more profit for the lying cowardly “kingpins” (typically, those who wear the Emerald pin and above) and causes the typical IBO not be in a positive net profit situation until a relatively high level is reached. Several posters on qblog and other sites have indicated was their personal experience, the break even point is about Platinum, having reached the Platinum level themselves. So, for every 100 or so IBO’s in a Platinum group, 99 of them are operating at a net negative, and one (the Platinum) is breaking even or making a small profit. This is NOT a good business model (to state the obvious).

The tool scam was publicly identified by Rich DeVos in 1983, but he never followed up on his demands, so we have several decades of literally millions of former and current Distributors/IBO’s having lost somewhere in the neighborhood of billions to tens of billions of dollars to these scam artists.

rdknyvr,

I have to say my personal opinions or the opinions I have of the other 4 bloggers didn’t change much.

ibofb was in his usual form, from trying to correct me on everything from a discussion that started with the room Centigrade thermostat setting that is comfortable and led to the “crossover” point where degrees Centigrade and degrees Fahrenheit are identical (I was right, it is -40 degrees, he insisted it was slightly different than -40 degrees) to showing me a “secret” email printed on red paper (perhaps TOP SECRET, something I had actual access to in the real world when I was in the military), folded to show me only the critical information (lest I see who the email was from), showing the N21 tool profits to be reasonable. As I recall, it was 30% for Diamonds, but

1. The key question is 30% of what. I noticed the 30% compared the published Quixtar average Diamond income, which applies to QUALIFIED Diamonds only, and an N21 Diamond pin, most of whom probably don’t currently qualify at the Diamond level. Therefore, the 30% number is mixing apples and oranges, the usual upline/ibofb lies/spin. This makes former Diamond pin Bruce Anderson’s statement (was in the Yager/Wilson system, not N21) and a number of others, a more accurate estimate, as he made about twice as much from tools than A/Q.

2. There was no backup information, only a statement it was 30%.

He did say he agreed with me more on the tool scam issue being a problem, and less with my specific tactics. I think the time has long passed to be “nice” about this issue, as the tool scam has gone on far too long, negatively affected far too many Distributors/IBO’s, and made far too many billions of scam dollars for the lying cowardly “kingpins.” We agreed to disagree on my tactics. The bottom line for me is when you show someone the marketing plan, unless you tell them the upline makes most of their money on the tool scam, you shouldn’t expect to go net positive if you listen to the uplines’ advice until you get to Platinum, and most of the lying cowardly “kingpins” aren’t currently qualified for the pins they wear, you are lying through your teeth. As I told others prior to the conference and ibofb during the conference, I had no intent of shaking ibofb’s hand, as he had “dissed” me on 4 separate posts in the weeks leading up to the conference. However, I didn’t think through how much we would be around each other, so I shook his hand upon meeting him, when we split up, and treated him better than his behavior deserved. I let The Big Apple talk to ibofb much more regarding the tool scam, as I have found ibofb to be completely intellectually dishonest. As I’ve said several times before, ibofb and I agree on virtually every issue related to A/Q, except what to do about the tool scam. There’s only one thing worse than an uneducated fool, and that’s an educated one. That sums up ibofb pretty well.

Bridgett was I imagined her to be from the blogs: energetic, smart, and a great sense of humor.

The Big Apple agreed the tool scam is the biggest problem, and we only had one minor issue, which I will expand on. I believe there is a single primary issue, the tool scam. The Big Apple said there are 2 main issues, the tool scam and the fact there are too many tools promoted. Here’s why I think I am correct: if the tool prices were lowered, the emphasis for profit will be shifted to the A/Q business. When this happens, and too many tools are being promoted, there will be an incentive (maximizing A/Q profit) to reduce the number of tools, which will allow the IBO’s to have more time and money to devote towards retailing and/or sponsoring new IBO’s. Therefore, the reduction in tool prices causes the amount and content of tools to be adjusted closer to the ideal level consistent with the new balance in incentives, to maximize A/Q profit. In other words, the first issue (the tool scam) The Big Apple sees as being one of the two issues automatically optimizes the second (number/content of the tools). It’s really simple economic principles (supply/demand, maximizing profit) and incentives (away from the tool scam, towards A/Q profit) making the proper corrections to the out of balance situation we have now.

Dave was more focused on how we present our personalities as bloggers, social interaction via the blogs, etc., and in non-A/Q blogging interests, as his site reflects. How can I say anything negative about my "Blog Daddy?"

Tex "Claims" His Blog

As most of you know, this is Tex's Quixtar Blog. I just maintain it to provide a place for Tex's Messages about Quixtar/Amway and the "lying, cowardly kingpins" that run the "tool scam" of training Quixtar-affiliated business owners.

Tex has yet to "take over" and actually write blog entries, but his message is clear in the comments section.

But I was happy today when I was reviewing the site statistics of visits and noticed a referral from the Alticor Media Blog. I had not linked anything to the Media Blog so I followed the referral link back to see who was talking about this blog.

The link comes from an entry entitled , Nitro: Case Dismissed.

It's in the comments section.

Tex Says:
February 27th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
SoonerIBO #107,

I agree, they should have simply resigned and followed the 6 month/2 year rules. No special requests, no lawsuit. Just GO, TEAM.

Do you have the tape/CD number where he refers to the “bubba juice?”

JimZ #108,

JimZ for President! Come visit me on "my" blog sometime, http://texsquixtarblog.blogspot.com/. I invite you and other enlightened individuals (or even curious) into the club of truth.

Chuck #109,

Good point, I think we would have heard about these guys leaving by now. Chuck for President! You have the same invitation as JimZ. We can handle Co-Presidents.

ThunderDUNCE #110,

So Fred was lying for 20 plus years, or all the other "kingpins" are now wrong?

I know he places the word, "MY", in quotes; but I'm glad Tex is feeling at home.

And Tex...that's a great way to drive traffic here.

Speaking For Tex / A "Successful" Scam Is Still A Scam

As Admin for this blog, it's my "duty" to take what Tex says in his comments here and other Amway-related blogs and make legitemate blog entries out of his words and text.

Recently, Tex made a comment that I think addresses a defense by some Quixtar/Amway IBOs as to the effectiveness of the Business Support Materials used by the leaders("lying cowardly kingpins") to motivate and train their downline.

The defense is basically, "It can't be a scam because so many organizations succeed and sponsor people using the tools...you can't have that kind of growth if people are being scammed."

Tex said...

"[It's] like saying any scam is okay as long as it is producing more victims.

The key factor in being a scam isn't whether the scam is working to produce growth.

The key is whether those "succeeding" are lying about the source of their income. The growth of the 1980's was as much (or more, as more people were being scammed every year) of a scam as the stagnant growth of the past dozen years.

It is somewhat less of a scam now as there is much more information available for prospects and IBO's regarding the scam.

However, the upline continues to call anything found on the internet as "bathroom wall" writing.

But the sheer volume and reliability of the sources are becoming impossible to make this argument stick.

It will no longer be a scam when the truth is told and full tool profit transparency is available to prospects and IBO's."

Tex's Second Post

TEX MADE TWO COMMENTS THAT I HAVE COMBINED TO MAKE A REALLY GOOD BLOG ENTRY

If we were discussing baseball, the important topics would be the basics of baseball. Defense, hitting, pitching, and running.

If we were discussing the construction industry, we would talk about materials, architecture, building codes, etc.

But we are talking business. Business is about making money, the source of profits, overhead, pricing, etc.

THE biggest issue with Quixtar IS the lying cowardly "kingpins", and how they have for decades ripped off millions of Distributors/IBO's for hundreds of millions to
10's of billions of dollars by using the A/Q business as a bait-and-switch operation. The LCK's make MUCH more from tools than A/Q, and it causes net losses for most other IBO's. Are there other issues? Of course, product pricing is one of them, but a distant second compared to the tool scam.

I've challenged others to name an issue/problem with A/Q, and chances are very good I can connect a direct or indirect influence from the tool scam.

Most bloggers just want to puke all over their experiences, opinions, etc. I'm here to cause positive change to happen, so it's no mystery to me why I have been "banned" from many blogs. Most of them are mere "soap operas", repeating the same tired stories over and over again. Instead, why NOT brainstorm on ideas on how to bring honesty and decency to this business? If you wanted, you could be a part of that effort, as your experience as a former IBO could be used to help others, rather than merely brapping all your "horror stories" all over the internet

I've tried to be "grown up" and "civil" for a very long time on qblog, and all I got in return was insults, namecalling, etc., until it got to the point that it was very apparent most of the other bloggers had no interest in discussing, just cussing. The only way I found was successful was to push back with similar posturing, while still making my points. I asked openly on several blogs for others to help me clamp down on the nasty talk and criticize those who conducted themselves in this matter. Zero takers. So the beat goes on....

In fact, Dave is the FIRST blog owner who has decided he would like meaningful disucssions of making things better, and that is VERY refreshing. But why should we need HIM to be "mommy and daddy", why not have a CULTURE on this blog that frowns on childish behavior? I'm game, are YOU?

New Business Support Rules For Amway India

TEX SAYS...

Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming....Here's an interesting letter from the Amway India business. Looking forward to similar rules coming to the U.S.

http://www.thetruthaboutamway.com/index.php/component/option,com_fireboard/Itemid,91/func,view/id,10747/catid,30/

Here's the letter as well, in the event it "disappears" from Insider's site:

AMWAY INDIA B.S.M. DISCUSSION PAPER & RECOMMENDATIONS

NOVEMBER, 2007

Foreword:

The following B.S.M. discussion paper and subsequent recommendations ‘that flow from it’ are the final result of a comprehensive review that began in May 2007. That review included detailed discussion with B.S.M / System Owners, International Diamonds, all in-Country Diamonds, presentations to most Platinums in India and finally input from a global B.S.M. Meeting convened in Grand Rapids in early October, 2007.

It reflects the unique and at times difficult regulatory environment in India, the concerns that have been raised as a result of the AP matter and of course the ‘learnings’ from other markets around the world, not the least of which is the U.K.

Where appropriate, commentary / explanation preceeds the different recommendations and readers of this document should view the recommendations as proposed “additions” to the current rule……not as a replacement for it.

The recommendations presented have not been framed as rules within this paper and will be integrated into the current B.S.M. rule, with appropriate language and detail once all feedback has been received and final decisions taken. That will be no later than December, 15th, 2007.

General Philosophy:

B.S.M’s and meetings , their content, pricing, frequency and Brand presentation should compliment and enhance the Amway Business and never intentionally or unintentionally interfere with or disrupt it. Good education should be made available to the maximum number of ABO’s at the best possible price. Risk should be eliminated from this aspect of the business.

1. Branding:

RECOMMENDATIONS:

• All Major meetings and BBS’s must display prominent Amway branding. Sub branding is allowed. For example:

AMWAY MEETING

Proudly Sponsored by Sanjay Diamond


• Amway branding on all B.S.M.’s will be required, with the exception of books that are generally found in the public domain. “Amway Approved B.S.M.” will be required to be printed on all tapes, CDs, DVDs or printed material, with the exception , of books, as previously mentioned.

2. Content & Quantity:

There is a need to standardize the content of all Amway related Meetings & BSMs to ensure correct and more consistent messaging is achieved. Income examples untilised in Plans and Opens must be ‘real’ and products / customers must be promoted with equal emphasis as to recruiting more ABO’s. There must be ‘balance’ in all teaching, whether from the stage, on a B.S.M.’s, or in a face to face counseling situation.

Amway believes it is appropriate to limit the number of B.S.M. SKU’s that can be sold by any one individual, group or System. Currently the number of B.S.M.’s available is disproportionate to the Core business offering. Amway would prefer not to make this a rule and will look towards productive discussions and agreements with System Owners to address this issue with a view to significantly reducing the number of B.S.M.’s on offer, so that it is at parity with the overall Amway business.



RECOMMENDATIONS:

The Plan:

• Concepts and Income Examples will be per Company direction and format. They must be used.

• Customers must be shown

• 15 minutes live product demo or playing of a 15 minute product demo CD is mandatory

• Money back guarantees must be clearly explained on both products and the business opportunity

• Prospects must be told that income is generated from the sale of products

• Prospects must be told that B.S.M.’s are optional and not mandatory.

• A ‘leave behind brochure’ (currently being developed by the Company) will be mandatory and must be given to all who see the plan.


Meetings (Major & B.B.S.):

• A balanced content in all meetings of approximately 30% motivation, 30% product information and 30% teaching & recognition will be mandatory.

• Speaker guildelines developed by Amway must be given to every speaker well in advance of their presentation and must be adhered to.


B.S.M.’s (Tapes, CDs, DVDs, Printed Material):

• All B.S.M.’s will have to be approved by Amway prior to distribution and must carry an “Amway approved B.S.M.” sticker on them.

• All product related B.S.M.’s will only be produced and distributed by Amway.

• All A.S.M.P. related B.S.M.’s will only be produced and distributed by Amway.

3. Costs:

For the new ABO will remain the same per the current B.S.M. rule. Please note that Amway will be reducing the cost of the Starter Kit substantially in early 2008 and hence the value of B.S.M.’s that can be sold to a ‘new’ Business Owner will reduce proportionally and as per the current rule. Amway will advise the new kit pricing criteria and the subsequent amount of BSM’s / meeting tickets a ‘new’ ABO can purchase in the first 30 days, in due course.

RECOMMENDATION:

• Prices as currently stated in the B.S.M. Policy will be maintained and not increased.


4. Transparency:

New ABOs joining the Amway Business who are promoted B.S.M.’s and Meetings not produced by Amway, need to understand that these recommendations are linked to a separate business………. that generates profit to its promoters.

RECOMMENDATION:

• Written disclosure to prospects who become ‘new’ ABOs will be mandatory, relative to informing them that the promotion and sale of non Amway B.S.M.’s and / or Meeting tickets, is a business and that profits are made from same.

Concluding Comments:

The aforementioned recommendations for inclusion into the B.S.M. Rule, we believe substantially reduces the risk to the Amway business in India, whilst allowing education / motivation by independent Third Party Vendors, to continue.

Whilst Amway appreciates that costs are going up in India and that some Leaders encouraged us to increase B.S.M. and Meeting prices to counter that…..in the current regulatory environment, and considering the recent strong growth currently being experienced in India, AIE does want to do anything to change the status quo relevant to pricing and hence does not feel B.S.M. or meeting price increases would be prudent at this time. We will continue to review this on an annual basis.

The Company has taken the decision to become much more pro-active in providing B.S.M.’s and Meetings in the future and will shortly publish a schedule of events across the country. All LOS’s will be invited to attend, as will speakers from the various organizations. This initiative will not be a profit center for Amway and therefore prices will reflect that.

Whilst Amway will encourage all to attend and participate in our events , we of course respect that ABO’s have a ‘choice’ and it is up to them to decide whatever they do or do not want to participate in…..or what B.S.M.’s they do or don’t want to buy. However, it should be noted that Rule 5.5 expressly states that a “Sponsor must use his best efforts to encourage his personally sponsored distributors to attend Amway meetings and other functions” …and in this regard, if any ABO is found to dispromote, intimidate or try to prevent his downline from participating in Amway events or from buying Amway B.S.M.’s…………… Amway India, observing a zero tolerance policy would terminate that ABO immediately.

As with all rules, it is the ‘spirit’ and not the ‘letter’ of the actual rule that makes it effective. Amway India looks forward to the future and to working with all stakeholders who have a vested interest in providing excellent education / motivation, to the most number of ABO’s , at the best possible price and without risk.

Regards,
AMWAY INDIA ENTERPRISES

Tex's First Post...Sorta

The following is a response to an entry at "On The Road With Dave." The relevant link is in the body of the message.


Tex said...

Dave,

First of all, thanks for setting up "my" blog, although I should note YOU are the Blog Administrator and can delete comments at your discretion.

You got a number of points wrong/inaccurate.

1. I do NOT hate the "tool systems", I hate the high prices that result in MA$$IVE secret profits for the lying cowardly "kingpins". I find no issue with the CONTENT of the tools, recognizing I will not agreement 100% with every other human being on this planet.

2. Although banned from many blogs (some multiple times, as they "let" me back on prior to being "banned" yet again). I have NEVER been banned from a corporate blog, unless you count the IBOAI one, which is obviously run by the lying cowardly "kingpins". Nor am I "heavily moderated" by any corporate blogs, in fact, some posters have accused A/Q of allowing my pointed comments and not allowing them to respond in kind.

3. Your speculative reasons for me being "banned" are indeed speculation.
I can speculate on three reasons why this has happened. My "prolific comments" are intended to educate the prospects and IBO's of the tool scam. In the blog world, the way to do this is to stay "on top" in the discussion (visible to the casual reader). The reason I quote others is to ensure no inferior point they make goes "unpunished". I challenge you to name an issue with this business, and chances are VERY good I can trace it to being directly or indirectly related to the tool scam. I ONLY counter-attack. I learned this lesson early in my "blogging life" long ago. I tried for 2-3 months or so to be "nice", and not hit back. However, I realized the only way to get my point across was to hit back. Shoot me with a pea-shooter, out comes my 16" guns. If you want a closed discussion (closed to other ideas), you SHOULD apply "Free Speech" only to the author. If you want the truth to come out, you allow ALL points of view, and allow facts and logic to prevail.

Tex's New Blog

I've started A NEW blog. But, hopefully it won't be mine for very long.
I'm looking at it as a "surrogate blog". I'm just "carrying it" until the mother or in this case; the father, takes over.

In the realm of Amway and Quixtar-related blogs, there are a regular cast of bloggers representing opinions both pro and con. These blogs are frequented and commented upon by the other bloggers and a semi-regular cast of commenters. At some of the blogs, the commenters are as well known as the authors of said blogs. Such is the case with "Tex".

Tex is a Quixtar-affiliated Independent Business Owner(IBO) with a propensity to stay focused on one issue regarding the operation of a Quixtar Independent Business. Tex hates the "tool systems" used by top level Amway and Quixtar distributor leaders to motivate, educate (and yes, profit from) their downline groups of distributors. For that issue, I am in total agreement with Tex.

Aside from that issue, Tex also enjoys a healthy debate with critics of the legitimate businesses operated by other Quixtar Independent Business Owners. Again, I can be in total agreement with Tex on this issue.

I know, I know, you sense a "BUT" coming on...and you'd be correct.

The problem is most recently, that Tex has been banned from nearly all the Quixtar and Amway-related blogs and discussion groups. This includes pro-blogs, con-blogs, and even some Quixtar-company sponsored blogs. If he hasn't been banned; he's being heavily-moderated.
I can speculate on three reasons why this has happened.

1. Tex is prolific in his comments. He writes often. He writes long detailed entries in the "Comments" section. He quotes other commenters in their entirety and then responds point by point. He repeats this process.

This can be a blog author's dream or a nightmare. The dream is the traffic and lively discussion. The nightmare is the constant moderation and possible association with the negative comments volleyed back and forth between Tex and the other commenters.

2. The constant "on point" comments by Tex voicing his "position".

This would be okay, except if the blog author or "thread" author in the discussion group wrote about something entirely different from the subject Tex wants to discuss.
If the author writes about "Tool Abuse"; Tex is there to denigrate the "lying cowardly kingpins" that profit from other IBOs.

If the author writes about a new Quixtar product; Tex is there to denigrate the "lying cowardly kingpins" that profit from other IBOs

If the author writes about taking a vacation; Tex is there to to denigrate the "lying cowardly kingpins" that profit from other IBOs.

3. Tex uses "personal attacks" towards other commenters and blog authors when the topic debate continues on. Although personal attacks are not the best debate tactic, they can be effective; but Tex fails to realize or fails to care that he is commenting in a "closed forum". The blog author or Discussion Group owner is not obligated to let participants insult other commenters or the blog author.

The expression of "Free Speech" only applies to the author. Yes, some authors may allow dissent...but it is not a "right" of the commenter. Tex has the proclivity to tax his "right" on other's forums.
And so, Tex has worn the patience of many a blog author and forum owner quite thin. It has been suggested to Tex on many, many occasions to "start your own blog". Tex has been hesitant to take this advice for fear that a blog of his own would not receive the traffic that the other blogs receive and thus his message would not be heard.

I disagree with Tex. And so, I started "Tex's Quixtar Blog".

I have set it up. I have posted two entries from other blog authors on why Tex was banned and their opinion of Tex. I have now begun to post "comments" made by Tex at some of these blogs.
I am more than willing to give Tex access to HIS blog and let him begin to spread his message about Quixtar, about Amway, about Motivational Organizations and their tools that they sell; and about WHATEVER Tex wants to write.
"On The Road" readers, I urge you to visit Tex's New Blog...let him see that you are willing to read what he writes, that you are willing to comment at HIS blog, and that he can exercise his Free Speech rights under his OWN banner.

Tex? Howboutit? Your own blog.

Nice or Honest

Tex said:
Saturday, January 19, 2008

"...The critics will ALWAYS be vicious and will lie to support their position. The issue for me isn't putting the emphasis on being "civil" (ever hear of the saying, "Don't bring a knife to a gunfight"?), it is being open, honest, and transparent. When you do this, the critics will have the "knife", and we will have the "gun". The truth and facts are powerful. Everyone (including Quixtar) needs to understand we live in a different world, now that the internet and blogs exist. It's no longer possible to "sweep things under the rug", or "look the other way" when the elephant is standing in your living room.

The A/Q business needs to start the open, honest, and transparent exercise with the source of most of the profit (for the upline) and much of the loss (for most IBO's) is derived, the secret tool profits. Until this is done, the critics will have the upper hand. This is the "elephant in the living room" of the A/Q business. It can no longer be ignored, and has already been a quarter of a century since this biggest problem in the A/Q business was publicly identified by one of the co-founders.

Stop trying to be "nice" and just do the right thing. Being "nice" at the expense of being honest is a recipe for failure."

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