Recently, Tex made a comment that I think addresses a defense by some Quixtar/Amway IBOs as to the effectiveness of the Business Support Materials used by the leaders("lying cowardly kingpins") to motivate and train their downline.
The defense is basically, "It can't be a scam because so many organizations succeed and sponsor people using the tools...you can't have that kind of growth if people are being scammed."
"[It's] like saying any scam is okay as long as it is producing more victims.
The key factor in being a scam isn't whether the scam is working to produce growth.
The key is whether those "succeeding" are lying about the source of their income. The growth of the 1980's was as much (or more, as more people were being scammed every year) of a scam as the stagnant growth of the past dozen years.
It is somewhat less of a scam now as there is much more information available for prospects and IBO's regarding the scam.
However, the upline continues to call anything found on the internet as "bathroom wall" writing.
But the sheer volume and reliability of the sources are becoming impossible to make this argument stick.
It will no longer be a scam when the truth is told and full tool profit transparency is available to prospects and IBO's."