Monday, September 15, 2008

Dex Yager's "Right To Differ" Statement

TEX SAYS......

"For anyone who has ever heard Dexter and Birdie on stage or voice mail, you know this is a 180 degree turnaround, especially in the religious and political areas. These are the areas accreditation addresses, unfortunately it does NOT address the tool scam in any meaningful manner:"

To: All Yager Group Diamonds and Personals (Intended for all ibos)

Fr: The Yagers

Dt: 9/15/08

Re: Best Practices Message: The Right to Differ

One of the criteria for continued accreditation with Amway Global/Quixtar is that all IBOs understand Amway Global/Quixtar's best practices as explained through the IBO Communications Platform. The following message is sent in accordance with the Amway Global/Quixtar Professional Development Accreditation Program and is part of ongoing best practices messages you should expect to receive by email on a monthly basis. Please forward this message to all ibos in your organization.

The Right to Differ

You are attracting more and younger IBOs and more and more IBOs from different races, religions, and nationalities. It's a very cool thing to see because it demonstrates what we've always said - that this is a business anyone can do. Regardless of your background, where you're from, or who you vote for, this business can help you achieve your goals. And just as Quixtar is committed to supporting people who want to own their own business, we're also committed to acceptance. This means tolerance and acceptance of those with differing beliefs and viewpoints- different religious beliefs, different political affiliations, or just different opinions in general. And this means there's room for everybody in the business - which is what makes our business so strong and so successful.

We're not here to exclude anyone; we're here to include everyone. So we all have to be sensitive of the differences among us and appreciate that sometimes not everyone shares the same views. It's especially important to be mindful of this during business meetings where there’s a tendency to share your personal beliefs with others from stage. While it's OK to talk about how important your beliefs are to you in your own life and how they've helped you build your business, it's not OK to say that others need to believe the same thing. The one belief that all IBOs do need to share is the power of this business. As long as we’re all united in our commitment to building Quixtar-powered businesses in the right way, there's nothing we can't accomplish, regardless of our differences. In fact, these differences can provide an even broader and stronger foundation for growing this business.

For your success,

The Yagers


EDITOR'S NOTE:

I added the boldness and colors to statements I, personally, found to be a part of Tex's statement about this message being a 180 degree turnaround from what Dexter Yager has "preached" from the stage for 25 years. I find this "turnaround" disingenuous to say the very least.

Dave

18 comments:

tex said...

Dave,

I don't consider it disingenuous, InterNet is merely complying with the accreditation rules, which were obviously written with the Yagers in mind, as they were among the worst offenders when it came to political and religious issues. And this is coming from my point of view, a politically conservative, religiously Christian person.

David Robison said...

Tex,

What I find disingenuous is that even though the message is saying these things about the Right To Differ, I know in my heart that Dex doesn't really mean a word of it.

It's just so InterNET can be accredited...you can bet that Dex will continue his "preaching" and just say that when folks in the audience are surveyed, that they can just say they never heard those parts.

tex said...

Here's the scoop on XS Gold:

It is a combination of several types of drinks, has all kinds of vitamins, minerals, adaptogenic herbs, plus various fruit components, including acai mangosteen, blueberry, pomegranate, red grape, and blackberry. Plus, an ingredient called essentra, which can be found at http://www.nutragenesisnutrition.com/essentra.php.com The cost is $27.60 per 12 pack, retail $36/12 pack.

There will be about a month delay in the rollout, as the claims are being checked, so we don't have another Perfect Water fiasco, unlike the lame excuse ibofb offered up earlier today.

Also, the tool scammers are offering a site that is similar to the free Amway sites, but costs $3/month. Multiply that out by several 10's of thousands of IBO's!!! You can view one of them at www.doyleyager.com/shop

tex said...

Also included in last night's call are these two tidbits:

InterNet Services (Yager) has a major function in Ohio next month, and the free Joe Pici retail "act" from the Quixtar Spotlight tour is not only being expanded from an hour to 3-4 hours, it is going from free to $75 person. This isn't a whole lot less than the function cost for the entire weekend. Can you imagine how much money will be made at "retailing" next month by LCK Joe Pici and the other LCK's? Did I predict this would happen YEARS ago when the increased emphasis on retailing was getting off the ground? DISGUSTING!!!

A question regarding illegal retailing also came up, as someone on the call mentioned they saw a restaurant openly selling XS Energy drinks. The person from XS mentioned this is a rule violation, but liked the increased publicity the drinks enjoyed, so they gave the caller the OPTION of notifying Amway, rather than a solid recommendation. Of course, Doyle Yager was silent during the entire conversation, when he SHOULD have stepped in and clearly recommended this violation should be reported to Amway. This is a VERY clear indication the culture of lying cowards has NOT changed.

Amway, I know you read this blog, DO something about these issues.

tex said...

If anyone thought accreditation meant the Sunday morning worship services were going away, there will be an "Optional Faith Based Session" in Ohio for the Yager Free Enterprise next month.

tex said...

A clarification to the Joe Pici comment above. The cost is "only" $50 per person for each IBOship (normally husband/wife), and is 3 hours long, on Friday afternoon.

Amthrax said...

Thanks for posting this, Dave.

I posted the Yager letter onto my site. Let me know if that's okay with you. I wrote an article questioning whether or not politics and religion belonged on stage now that accreditation is here with respect to my former LOS, INA.

David Robison said...

Don't thank me, Thank Tex.

But, I really lik ethe fact that Tex has on more than one occaison sent in his comments letters from Dex fron "the inside".

Other IBOs don't often get to see these LOA messages.

Thanks Tex.

tex said...

You're both welcome. Anyone is welcome to "steal" anything on this site as far as I'm concerned. Dave will have to answer as the final authority, as he's the "blog daddy."

tex said...

I noticed the list of accredited IBO's includes former Diamonds Wade and April Cowart. I understnad they used to share a lot of major functions with Bruce and Wendy Anderson (both from the Jacksonville, FL area), but "retired" several years ago.

tex said...

I just posted the following on the Amway Media blog, they posted their first story since May!

Tex Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
September 19th, 2008 at 9:56 am
It’s good to see positive corporate action, and obviously Amway can move very quickly when they want to do so.

Click on my name for the tool scam facts.

tex said...

They decided to "scrub" my previous comment, by leaving off the last sentence, so I posted the following comment:

If you can’t post my entire comment, don’t post ANY of it.

tex said...

Looks like they are still up to their tool scam tricks in the UK:

Re: Founders Fundamentals
by whatsgoingon on Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:10 am

RW1 I know we are ALLOWED RESTRICTED SPONSORING.....but the overwhelming percentage of ABOs do NOT want to STP at this time. The reasons for this are too many to try and explain in this format..and one or two of the reasons I could not even open a dicussion on.

With regards the system stuff....anyone that is still serios about this business can still get their FIX if they want it badly enough.

With regads meetings ..again there are reasons that people do not choose to hold them at the moment...most of the reasons are due to restrictions that have been placed on them. If you have also built this to a reasonable level then you should now that to go on the road and be a warrior to build this ...you can not do it with your hands tied !!

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The "FIX" statement is interesting, I used this EXACT concept when talking to A/Q about how TIF was trying to alter their tool scam. TIF was trying to make the tool profit more visible and shared by all IBO's, but this creates an illegal pyramid, so TIF was terminated. I used the term of a drug addict (addicted to tool scam profits), the LCK's couldn't get off the "drugs" themselves, so they just shared with others. Disgusting.

tex said...

P.S., The latest evidence of BSM rule violation was AGAIN forwarded to the UK Rules of Conduct folks. Here's the text of my e-mail:

The BSM violation issue I brought to your attention a week and a half ago is apparently still "alive and well." See this link, with the offending statement repeated below as well: http://www.amwaytalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=150

Re: Founders Fundamentals
by whatsgoingon on Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:46 pm

I am still getting my input of cd,s and books from USA. Allthough we cant grow our business here at the moment it is still great to hear the stories,motivation,teaching etc. The business is still an exciteing adventure in lots of different countries around the world, and listening to the CDs reminds me of what we had..AND WILL HAVE AGAIN.

For all the reasons I have articulated in previous e-mails, I am awaiting a visible response.

tex said...

I was recently shut out of the LCK Yager IBO City site, probably as a result of some of my recent postings.

I have asked them for help getting access, we'll see what happens over the course of the next few days.

I have noticed visitors from various locations that are probably LCK's and their lawyers, such as Charlotte, NC, home of LCK Yager, Grand Rapids, New York, and Chicago, home of Amway lawyers, and Greensboro, NC, home of LCK Ruth Halsey.

I'll keep everyone posted.

tex said...

If you can get past all the back and forth brown-nosing (picture a couple of dogs sniffing at each others' hind quarters), there is an interesting tidbit on ibofb's site, the link and portion of interest below:

http://www.amwaytalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=154&sid=b3239ffbafb5a397934c0c908edd2c9e

It's absolutely crazy that the profit or loss on the room is of any business of Amway. ---- It's call the tool scam, dummy. It is now "dead" in the UK, and hopefully coming to the U.S. ASAP.

An open meeting now is open to all groups no matter who is showing the plan so it would make more sense for Amway to pay the plan showers for their time and expenses and this would go someway to solving the problem. ---- This is how it should be in the U.S. as well, and actually makes the OPPOSITE argument. If the plan can be seen by all LOS/LOA, there is less reason for the person showing the plan and the ABO's/prospects seeing the plan, to travel very far. Duh.

tex said...

The below note will soon be sent to InterNet Services, with copies going to various Amway Global employees, as well as the UK regulators and Texas Attorneys General officials:

Your recent cancellation of my IBO City account (see rejected e-mails below, more on this later) because of honest and accurate criticism is in violation of Amway Global rules below:

5.3.3. Training and Motivation: IBOs must be able to train and motivate the IBOs they have registered with a minimum of assistance from his or her first upline Platinum or above. If the IBO is a member of an established business-building system, he or she may make arrangements for his or her IBOs to be trained and motivated by the activities and BSM of that system, but under no circumstances may an IBO be forced or coerced to participate in the system. If a downline IBO is unable, for any reason, to access the system or chooses not to use the system, his or her IBO must be able to provide training and motivation.

5.3.4. Servicing Arrangements: If an IBO is unable or unwilling to service his or her downline IBOs with the proper supply of products, training or motivation, he or she must make arrangements, in writing, with his or her first upline qualified Platinum (or higher pin) to have this done, in which case he or she must be willing to compensate his or her currently qualified Platinum (or higher pin) for this service. An IBO who lives at a distance from his or her downline IBOs must also personally supply, train, and motivate their new IBOs, or he or she must make arrangements, in writing, with his or her qualified Platinum (or higher pin) to have this done, in which case he or she must be willing to compensate his or her currently qualified Platinum (or higher pin) for this service.

There is no mention regarding whether the IBO is in agreement with the upline making most of their money from tools (and unknown to most IBO's and prospects, by the way) rather than amway Global products and services, or any other disagreement. As Amway Global FULLY knows, my sponsor has been inactive for several years. Therefore, I have every right to access the IBO City information, and there is no rule that allows you to prevent access to this information. In fact, the rule below indicates Internet-Services should not be accredited (and therefore not qualified for the QBI program), as the above secret, under the table tool profit behaviors have severely damaged Amway Globals reputation for decades:

2.9. IBO in Good Standing. For the purposes of interpreting and enforcing the Quixtar Rules of Conduct only, the term “good standing,” when used in these Rules, shall refer to an IBO whose conduct does not negatively affect the reputation of Quixtar Inc., its related businesses, or IBOs affiliated with Quixtar and its related entities. This Rule shall not impact anything other than the Rules of conduct, including, but not limited to, Quixtar Business Incentive Programs (QBI).

The tool scam "game" is over in the UK, as ZERO tool profit is now allowed, and needs to be addressed in the U.S. as well. I have tried working with Amway Global for over 3 years, have raised visibility to this issue via various blogs, and have been in touch with, among others, UK regulators, the FTC, my U.S. Senator, the DSA, and more recently the Texas Attorneys General office.

Now back to the e-mail rejection issue. As far as I'm concerned, the tool profit "game" is over, now all we need to do is clean up the mess. I have an unlimited number of e-mail accounts and IP addresses I can use to inform you of the issues, so stop playing this IP address/e-mail account rejection game.

Your weak attempts to subvert an honest business, both via the tool profits and with my e-mail rejections should be noted be noted by the UK and the Texas Attorneys General to provide insight into your extreme tactics. It should be further noted Amway Global has NOT been helpful in resolving various issues during the past 3 years as well.

I suggest you propose a couple of dates/times to discuss these issues in an adult manner, using the conference call information provided below.

Conference Dial-in Number: (616) 597-8000
Access Code: 975016#

Regards,
Tex

tex said...

Here's another idiotic post on ibofb's site:

http://www.amwaytalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=165&sid=d9e3e5df9f6f30ce221642398e1be25a&start=10

Re: The Real Amway Global Transformation
by ajgannon on Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:37 pm

RW1 wrote:
Back to Basics [ was that a book } [I'm not promoting]

Ya, better watch out. Tex is watching.

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What aj and apparently many others don't understand is books are NOT prohibited, it is the PROFIT that is prohibited. There was another post earlier this week where the ibofb clones were scratching their heads over the BERR decision, and it boiled down to high product prices and MA$$IVE tool profit. They just don't (can't/won't) grasp the tool scam concept over there.

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