Monday, February 4, 2008

Down Under Amway Blog

Looks like a new Amway Blog has hit the Internet.

And they like Rocket's Rants, too.

Maybe they'll stop by and say,"Howdy" or even "G'Day Mate" to Tex.

"We are an ordinary working class couple who have established this blog and website because of the impact the Amway business has had in our lives as a direct result of our family members who are Amway IBO's. This blog is wholly independant. The blog content has been based on information freely available on the internet and from personal experiences and opinions of the authors and blog visitors. The authors do not claim to be of any authority, legal or otherwise, regarding the content of the blog and should not be considered as such."


Check out OzAmwayVictims.

20 comments:

Tex said...

Putting "victim" in your blog title sounds too much like having a victim mentality.

Although I and many others have been "victimized" by the tool scam, there's a huge difference between being a helpless victim and advocating change in an effective manner.

I count myself in the latter group, and my brief review of that site leads me to conclude it is very similar to qblog, and is merely a "soap opera" site of emotional diatribes.

Perhaps it is therapeutic for the folks using it, but I do not see it as effecting change.

Joecool said...

tex said: Although I and many others have been "victimized" by the tool scam, there's a huge difference between being a helpless victim and advocating change in an effective manner.

Joe says: Yep, good job tex, they really shut down those tools systems heer in the US.

Tex said...

jc,

If you spent more time fixing the tool scam problem rather than visiting various Honolulu whore establishments, perhaps we would be further along.

The tool scam has been going on for decades, why do you think it will be corrected overnight?

Joecool said...

Tex, you are the black knight from monthy python.

Tex said...

jc,

You are the black spot on the bottom of my shoe.

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rocket said...

You sure kept it on topic there Tex.

I like the Australian blog. It has very succinct points and thoughts.

Tex said...

rockette,

Look again. It was jc who took it off topic.

rocket said...

I did

You did

Joecool said...

tex said: If you spent more time fixing the tool scam problem rather than visiting various Honolulu whore establishments, perhaps we would be further along.


Joe says: Yeah you took the thread off topic. Care to prove this claim? If not then just shut up and get over it. (Posting written material is not proof)

Or do you think you being a racist is relevent to a quixtar discussion?

Tex said...

rocket,

The first comment was mine. I gave my input to the nature of the OZ blog, which was what the original post was all about.

The second post was made by jc, and he mentioned, in an obvious slam on me, the tool scam is still operating in the U.S., as if I didn't know this, which confirms his defeatist and victim mentality.

My point was advocating change, his comment was the fact the tool scam is still present. I know this, he knows this, he knows I know this, I know he knows this, and all he can do is project a pessimistic attitude. You don't win like that.

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ozamwayvictims.com said...

G'day Tex! *wink*

In reply to your first post:

Lol! The ole "victim mentalitity" reference....we'd like to comment on this...

The word victim was chosen for a couple of reasons...

1) Anyone who has read our story and/or blog posts will realise how our loved ones involvement in Amway has impacted on our relationship....so yes, we do somewhat feel like victims...

2) As evident by the hundreds if not thousands of testimonials out there on the net, and you yourself admit, that you have been "victimised"....victim is an apt word amongst the many others..

2) It's also a very good attention grabbing word don't ya think?

It is somewhat therapeutic Tex, but it's primary purpose is simply to share our opinions/experiences and also to discover and learn from the opinions and experiences of others.

Our "mission" is not to try and effect change...no one site or blog will ever achieve that, the abuses of the AMO's are still going on after 25 years as you are well aware of...though we see that there indeed has been some progress made in some places in recent times. We hold no expectation or delusions that what we have to say will change anything.

Again, it is simply just sharing our opinions and thoughts, receiving opinions of others and informing the Australian public of noteworthy happenings in the Amway world which could or does have an impact here.

If it results in greater awareness, knowledge and compels readers to think more about how Amway may, can and does impact on the lives of others, then we're cool with that...when it all comes down to it Tex, in the bis scheme of things, we are all one :)

Admin - OzAmwayVictims

PS. Good to see that you finally have your own blog..onya Dave! Best of luck with it :)

Tex said...

OZ,

The "victim" mentality does grab attention, it just doesn't have staying power or create constructive change.

If you are convinced you can't cause change to happen, I agree with you.

There's been more than enough sharing of opinions/experiences, discovering and learning from the opinions and experiences of others, yadda yadda yadda. If you want to wallow in your self-made pity that's fine, but to stop there means you will be written off as "broke losers" and discredited by the same people who financially and otherwise abused you.

When you help expose the truth and demand change, then you cause progress to be made.

This is probably as much cultural as factual. For those of us who are familiar with and admire the characters in the American Revolution, it is also part of our "DNA". Remember, our existance was birthed on being upset AND taking action against injustice.

Tex said...

OZ,

As a footnote, when I was in the U.S. military several years ago, we visited Australia and New Zealand.

Older men from the WWII era walked up to us and invited us into bars to buy us drinks. A shocking yet easy to accept offer, by the way.

Why? They still remembered how the U.S. protected Australia against the Japanese and gave their lives in doing so. Did the U.S. have our own interests? Sure, we didn't want the Japanese or the German Nazis to spread any further, and certainly not to the point of fighting either of them on U.S. soil or being isolated from trade, raw materials, etc.

But we also didn't want others to live under such oppression and took action. I had NOTHING to do with WWII, I wasn't even born yet!

So, I have affection for our "down under" friends, and am willing to continue to do the "heavy lifting" to fix the problems in this business, which pales in comparison to the effort and contribution of others.

Also recall we fought the enemies standing side by side during these former times, and we are willing to stand alongside you now to stop the lies and abuse we now face. Your call, as they say, "it takes 2 to tango".

Porkchopjim said...

So, I have affection for our "down under" friends, and am willing to continue to do the "heavy lifting" to fix the problems in this business, which pales in comparison to the effort and contribution of others.

Tex - we've been telling you that for over a year. But, keep up that 'heavy lifting' that pales in comparison to the efforts and contributions of others!

Tex said...

pcj,

As you know, I was comparing taking down the tool scam to taking down our enemies in WWII. But I wouldn't expect anything less insulting from you.

By the way, the Quixtar lawyers have thanked me recently for giving them the link to the Orrin online video (made in 2003) and sending them a tape (2002) where Orrin clearly makes reference to the product prices being cost competitive. The lack of product pricing competitiveness was the basis for Orrin's "illegal pyramid" lawsuit.

What have you done lately?

Porkchopjim said...

By the way, the Quixtar lawyers have thanked me recently for giving them the link to the Orrin online video (made in 2003) and sending them a tape (2002) where Orrin clearly makes reference to the product prices being cost competitive.

So, as 'long ago' as 2006 - you were a 20% tool profit guy...

...yet videos from 2002 and 2003 aren't a 'long time ago'?

Seems you have multiple double standards. Shock.

So, when Orrin was saying the prices were competitive - was he a LCK? Or did that come when he said they weren't competitive?

You should tell Amway to quit worrying about whether their products are 'competitive' as you've already 'proven' that they are.

What have you done lately?

Laugh at you.

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